What are some of the challenges in validating voting systems? (Applies to blockchain and election results)

By stevea68 | SteveA | 12 Nov 2020

As a quick summary, I believe most everyone interacting in a system desires some sort of benefit for such interactions.  There is some sort of purpose to engaging with any specific system, otherwise it would be as significant a component of ones life as the hypothetical blue fairies living on Algerion IX having voted for Emporer Hermach to rule the universe ... and (s)he thinks people should wear face diapers.  Of what importance to me is that?

Anyway, I assume people desire to work within a system of interactions where the exchanges are at least believed to benefit them.  For example, if I were to spent time building something for someone else, I'm generally expecting something of value in return, even if it's simply a smile and thank you, but because I also tend to respect what I perceive as being others desires, if I see a frown and hear what appears to be "leave me alone", I'll likely drift away and stop interacting with such people.  Yes, I tend to be a people pleaser because I maintain a belief that such interactions can generally be beneficial.

So, similar to an economic system, if I have a couple friends, Adam and Betty, I enjoy interacting with and I enjoy making tools and hanging out with Betty, while Adam enjoys farming and growing food and Betty likes a good meal and hanging out with me, then a great solution would appear to be that I make farming tools for Adam, so he can grow food for Betty so me and her have extra time hanging out together.  Everyone's happy and as desires change, different "markets" shift in value and tend to pressure for different configurations in the future.

So lets say I'm going to make a new tool (or figuratively earn a dollar) and there are two possible people I can do this for - one has helped build my home and generally treated me well, while another has damaged my car, stolen from me and generally treated me poorly.

Who should I help?  Let's make it even more "Democratic" and say that it was 3 people who damaged my property, stole and disrespected etc.

So lets take a vote:

3 people want to keep harassing me (and almost implicitly DON'T want to separate). 

me and "respectful helper guy" want to get rid of the other 3.

Ah, but under many typical views of democracy it's "the mob" that rules and minorities should concede and continue to support whatever apparent majority there is.

Now, let's apply that same logic to a nature - if there are two Elks and 3 lions and they all vote on who should be eaten, should the lions vote to eat the Elks?

I'm going to make this question ADDITIONALLY CHALLENGING (for a few extra almost worthless brownie points) and NOT give you the answer, except to refer back to the initial title and point out that the 3 lions may themselves have their own independent voting system - now which other 2 lions lions would you want to include in your group?

I remember president Reagan saying "Trust but verify"

Looking at the state of affairs from some sources, my guess is that someone is getting hungry.

What suggestion(s) might you have as to how to resolve this and what merits does democracy possess?  Technically the U.S. is a republic (with democratic elements) but even a republic has democratic elements and if extrapolated to an extreme it appears any form of interaction between people has a democratic element, which sort of leads back to my last post on beneficial relationships.

Yes, I tend to take negative views much of time and I believe it comes a bit from my engineering experiences - if you're truly going to create something awesome from a conglomerate of diverse components that even likely have unknown properties to them that will arise over time, it seems almost certain to fail if every component has a 50/50 chance of working.  On the other hand, sometimes apparent "failures" end up working as well.

Yes, you probably are not going to want to (or even be able to) follow me down some of these rabbit holes.

Back to the original topic, I know "trust" appears to be a big component to voting systems, but what is it that that trust is placed in?

Peace bro,

"Steve out" 

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